October 1, 2010 – Justice Young: “You’re done!”

This column picks up where yesterday’s leaves off: with Michigan Supreme Court Justice Robert P. Young, Jr., at a Q&A session of the Muskegon Tea Party meeting, September 28, 2010.

Others asked questions about ways he’s suggest to vet lawyers with ACLU leanings, his stand on gun laws, and his thoughts on the U.S. Supreme Court.  Justice Young answered with care, and, for the most part, to the approbation of his audience.

Then, I was accorded the opportunity to query the Justice one more time.

DBS: “You’ve gathered that I’m somewhat critical of your practice.”

RPY: “Well, I figured as much.  You’re sitting next to my severest critic.”

Oh, did I mention that I was seated next to newly retired Justice Elizabeth Weaver?  She was just sitting, observing, taking notes.  At no time did she say anything to Justice Young or the group at large.  But that didn’t hold Justice Young back from repeated castigations of her work.  And at no point in the evening did anyone in the audience or at the leadership table think to ask her if all he was saying was true.

But back to my one more question.  Justice Young had been speaking at length about the sanctity of the law, how its foundations are being eroded.  I just could not square all that with something he’d written in 2004 concerning our tradition of common law.  Now, that law is what’s been handed down to us.  Most often we cite the English Common Law as the beginnings of our own.  And always, it’s based on precedence…what’s gone before.  Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., (later Justice) in his The Common Law (1881) put it this way:

The life of the law has not been logic: it has been experience.  The felt necessities of the time, the prevalent moral and political theories, institutions of public policy, avowed or unconscious, even the prejudices which judges share with their fellowmen, have had a good deal more to do than the syllogism in determining the rule by which men should be governed.  The law embodies the story of a nation’s development through many centuries, and it cannot be dealt with as if it contained only the axioms and corollaries of a book of mathematics. (1)

This is common law, and the law of other wrongs including fraud, acts of malice, contracts, successions…pretty much of what our courts deal with on a day-to-day basis.

At any rate, Justice Young in an article published in the Texas Review of Law and Politics (Tex. Rev. Law & Pol. 299, Spring, 2004. 299-) had much to say about our common law.  I want to make sure I haven’t taken things out of context, so please read it for yourself, here. Here’s how he sets up his argument:

I am therefore simply  going to take as my starting point the proposition that the established common-law tradition, with any number of dodges and sleights of hand, allows judges to “discover” or make common-law rules that address evolving social concerns. (301)

He goes on to characterize the common law this way:

…I tend to think of the common law as a drunken, toothless ancient relative, sprawled prominently and in a state of nature on a settee in the middle of one’s genteel garden party. Grandpa’s presence is undoubtedly a cause of mortification to the host. But since only the most ill-bred of guests would be coarse enough to comment on Grandpa’s presence and condition, all concerned simply try ignore him.

Like the attendees at my imaginary garden party, common-law apologists have spent centuries denying that Grandpa was actually in attendance or, if so acknowledged, vigorously asserting that he was actually clothed and sober. Indeed, some jurists like Justice Cardozo actually celebrate Grandpa and his condition and enthusiastically urge all of us to relax, undress, and join Grandpa in his inebriated communion with nature.

As is the case with young children unschooled in social niceties, legal realists have been pointing and making a regular fuss about the fact that there is a frightening, drunken old man laying about with no clothes on. And like that child, I too acknowledge that this modern conception of the common law that authorizes jurists to discover, create, or modify common-law rules – or policy – is entirely inconsistent with normative constitutional policies and principles, according to which prerogatives of policymaking are given to other branches of government.  (302) (I have deleted the footnotes from the above but you can read them at the linked article.)

I’m not even sure that I entirely disagree with Justice Young.  We’ve seen that the law can be used as a sword instead of a shield.  I think he’s used it as such.  What strikes me, though, is the way this is said, the rhetoric.  It brings to mind a thought: who among us that professes filial piety–the respect for our parents, grandparents, ancestors–would leave our drunken Grandpa sprawled naked?  Would we not try to clothe him in a blanket and cover his nakedness?  Would we not do everything in our power to restore him to wholeness, even if it means waiting while he sobers?  If we had any respect for him and all he represents would we not keep him from censure and mockery?

This also brings to mind the Genesis story of Noah and his drunkenness (9:18-27).  I think Justice Young might profit from being reminded of what happened in the case of the son mocking his drunken father: Ham called down slavery upon his son Canaan and all his descendants.

So, does the rhetoric really matter all that much?  I THINK so, but I wanted to clarify it with the author of the screed.

DBS:  You have talked about the importance of the tradition of law, yet didn’t you write a passage about the common law?  Something characterizing it as a drunken grandfather lying sprawled naked…?

RPY: “‘…in the middle of one’s genteel garden party.'”

He actually picked up the quote and finished the phrase.  He knows these words.

And he explained there have been many cases where he has found the common law worth upholding.  It was a lengthy answer.  But what I was driving at and what I  really wanted to know was the motivation for such disdain for this unwieldy common law.  It’s problematic to be sure, but drunken naked?  Well.

So I raised my hand again and the Justice turned toward me and said something.  Because of a slight defect in my hearing I thought he said “Your turn.”  “Wow!,” I thought, “maybe he will enter into a discussion about this.”

I started to respond was stopped.  Arm extended and finger pointed at me, he thundered:  “You’re DONE!”

DBS: I am?

He nodded and asked for other questions.  Well, I suppose he’s correct that we could have stayed at it for a little while, and he had to leave to get to another event.  So, while I continued to raise my hand, I wasn’t picked.

Today, I again went over his 2004 article.  I find his writing lucid, persuasive, grandiloquent.  There is no doubt at all that he has a tremendous intellect and many gifts.  But, I pause when he writes:

Indeed, it is hard for me, a jurist of the 21st Century, to consider that the common law is “law” in any conventional sense. (303)

In what sense could common law be law of any sort other than by convention?

At any rate, his talk ended, he was thanked mightily, and he exited to a standing ovation.

Note to Harvard:  Even though Justice Young attended there  as both an outstanding undergraduate and a law student, you might want to hold off on funding appeals; I don’t think you’re going to get anything.  Of you he said: “I am a recovering Harvard Law student.  That’s ground zero Sodom and Gomorrah.”  I sure hope he wasn’t there on a scholarship; “How sharper than a serpent’s tooth….”

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5 Responses to October 1, 2010 – Justice Young: “You’re done!”

  1. James says:

    69.129.48.232

    2010/10/25 at 9:02 am
    The irony with Young’s position is that he despises the history of the very branch of government that he serves. I’m imagining him sitting on the USSC in Marbury v Madison, and deciding that he couldn’t rule on the case because the Constitution doesn’t actually SAY that the USSC has the final word on what the Constitution means.

  2. david says:

    2010/10/03 at 11:25 am
    Sorry, Bobby. I think you’ve misunderstood. Justice Young said that to me. As for his intention, you tell me once you’ve read what he’s written. That’s the wonderful thing: you get to decide for yourself.

  3. Bobby says:

    98.69.182.194

    2010/10/02 at 11:28 pm
    Jennifer,

    I believe that Rose was quoting the literal words from Judge Young’s mouth. He did not want to entertain any more questions from her. (It was not Rose telling that Judge that he was done.)

    I agree with you that Judge Young was attempting to support the long term usefulness of the Common Law, not to discredit it.

  4. James says:

    24.236.193.146

    2010/10/02 at 11:53 am
    I believe that judge Young, as any other lawyer who has risen through the ranks of defender, prosecutor and judge, has a bias toward his past actions and their unlawfulness. He, like so many other lawyers does, not wish to go through the process of cognitive dissonance when faced with the fact that he religiously disregarded the unalienable rights of those he so willingly persecuted (prosecuted?). Young was not only disrespectful of his elders, he was disrespectful of his contemporaries in that he failed to acknowledge the true position of the Common Law in a republic of, by, and for the people. Instead, he deliberately reversed the roles of unbridled statutes absent the more mature Common Law and depicted the later as not worthy of even being considered the form of law preceding the current statutory (only) scheme. The Constitution is the supreme law of the government it created, the Common Law is the supreme Law of the Land and always will be. And, even though the people are asleep in some cases to even the existence of that most important part of our system of law, it still patiently awaits our re-establishing of the peoples law to its rightful place in our republic. Young has given us his elitist, Harvard-bred view of a balanced judicial system composed of the Law (the Common Law) and the Statutes. Without the Common Law people are ruled as mere chattel by a venal and corrupt legislature; and only by the people asserting their right to fundamental and substantive due process can harmony and balance be once again established. Judge Young still has a way to go in his recovery process.

  5. Jennifer MI says:

    71.82.75.118

    2010/10/02 at 8:52 am
    So, you are declaring that Justice Young is done” because you found a metaphor he used to be disrespectful to elders in general? That strikes me as someone who dislikes a candidate and is simply looking for something on which to attack him.

    The fact that you were sitting next to Justice Weaver, who blatantly politicized her position on the court and used her resignation as a final way to screw conservatives on the court AND in Michigan tells me that you WERE seeking something to attack.

    I heartily support Justice Young’s attitude toward common law. It is the traditional approach to common law that allows judges to legislate from the bench. I have had my fill of activist judges. i applaud Justice Young for position that the Constitution is the supreme law of the state and our land. I will continue to seek more judges who do the same—as will any true conservative.

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